Enclosed is my handprint.". Nothing personal. It's not even to do with the fact that are safe and tucked away in jail because most of these idiots would unlock the cells themselves given the chance. We became friends and he even sent me $50 for my birthday . Everything below . In the May I went with my wife and a girlfriend of ours and Ramirez asked me to stand against the wall, probably so he could get a better look at the girls, and I saw him pull the tissue out of his pants pocket. One of them was Doreen Lioy who kept writing love letters to her potential husband for almost 11 years. TwitterDoreen Lioy entering San Quentin State Prison to be with Richard Ramirez. He wanted me to be happy and if while talking about crimes, I told him that I dreamed to commit violent acts, he was quick to remind me of his situation to dissuade me. "He never liked to talk about his case not with me anyway. Highlight for me is; "Ever gone bowling? He talks about cats a lot. [3] Ramirez committed several murders in San Francisco and stood trial there. Harder, who runs a crime memorabilia site called Murder Auction, told The Sun: "I first started writing to Ramirez in late 2000 and I visited with him twice and then I saw him a third time during another visit. Eventually Eva O contributed to the band's 1982 album Only Theatre of Pain, which was a highly influential album on the emerging American deathrock movement. Anyway, they could not understand that he was smiling at the camera to please me, because he had found a real friend in me. The Sun can also reveal a series of bizarre art work and sexually explicit prison letters by the serial killer who terrorized Los Angeles in the 80s before he was sentenced to death for 13 murders, five attempted and 11 sexual assaults. "He didn't really know how to interact, he was soft spoken and well spoken he read a lot. Privacy Policy. I'm struggling to decide how I feel about this (not that it really matters). One time, Harder said Ramirez lied to him about the name of his dog claiming it was called King, when it was actually called Princess. As he languished on death row at San Quentin State Prison, Lioy was his most frequent visitor. Thomas Glen Lundgren, 13, who was brutalized by twice-paroled sex offender and violent child molester Bill Bonin and his accomplice Vernon Butts. If so slide the link . I busted a gut when he asked in one letter: "do you like to stay at home or go out? Harder figured out he had lied after speaking to his wife Doreen, who married him in prison. Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. I wrote a song about his exploits, and I wrote to him every day, sometimes several times a day, as if he were beside me and we were in conversation. [1] An acoustic album, From the Heart's lyrics represented influences of Eva's positive views.[5]. I realize some of you think what I do is disgusting, and that's okay. "He would sometimes get his privilege level back up to where he could have visits but they were always behind the glass.". Richard Ramirez sent the letter first to Sarah and she gave it to me. Shadow Project went on one final tour after recording a live album, In Tuned Out. Then he made a request to the prosecution to grant me visit access. I cant help the way the world looks at him, she said at the time. He was pretty obsessed with her, wanted to marry her, wrote her emo sad boi "Are you mad at me :'(" letters and would send her money from prison as some "Ima take care of you" gesture. Sarah, who works with children in a conservative German town, is one of them, too. Its for research, right? If you dont mind me asking. Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. From 1984 until he was caught in 1985, Ramirez murdered at least 14 people across California. Correspondence doesnt necessarily denote a personal relationship. 679215 Registered office: 1 London Bridge Street, London, SE1 9GF. Despite the grisly evidence that had convicted Ramirez, Lioy wholeheartedly believed that he was innocent. Lioy admitted that she knew why people found her marriage odd. This is the horrifying true story of the Night Stalker. [1] In 1994, she began working on her second solo album, which she was originally going to call Angels Fall for a Demon's Kiss, but after studying more about the classic hierarchy of angels on both sides of the good-vs-evil spectrum, she ended up becoming a Christian and rewriting the entire record and renaming it Demons Fall for an Angel's Kiss. When we met, only his family had the right to come and see him. But opting out of some of these cookies may have an effect on your browsing experience. I found it rather kind of odd, him calling my buddy out for the same thing he was doing, except Walsh made the big bucks. "He didn't really know how to interact, he was soft spoken and well spoken he read a lot. It's difficult moderating threads like this. We shared a lot of things, and when we were together, it was as if nothing else around us really existed. "He loved his image as the Night Stalker no question about it he had a hefty amount of female admirers and he knew he had notoriety behind his name and he liked that. "The Sun", "Sun", "Sun Online" are registered trademarks or trade names of News Group Newspapers Limited. One of his pieces of prison arts appears to be a self portrait of him grinning and holding up a pentagram on his hand. My friend Edwin was married to Eva O. "It was funny to me he would fib about something so silly because he was so worried about his Night Stalker image. The pastor removed the line until death do you part from the official proceedings. "He never liked to talk about his case not with me anyway. [1], In the mid-1980s, Eva became involved with personal demons and a strong distaste for the world. Ramirez started his crime spree at the age of 24, and it would last from April 10, 1984, until August 24, 1985.During this time, he committed 14 murders and numerous other heinous crimes.. he was eventually convicted for 13 counts of murder, 5 counts of attempted murder, 11 counts of sexual . Damnation/Salvation is a detailed chronicle of her involvement with the occult and Satanism climaxing with her encounter with Jesus. On this Wikipedia the language links are at the top of the page across from the article title. -Translated from the French book, Richard Ramirez: Le fils du diable, (The Son of Evil) by Nicolas Castelaux. In 1996 Richard Ramirez, aka the 'Night Stalker', married Doreen Lioy in California's San Quentin prison. Just a Guy, our first foray into the animated documentary genre, started its highly successful festival run in 2020. Simpson, and we all know how that turned out.. Although Eva never considered herself to be an official member of Christian Death, her participation in that band and Shadow Project earned her the "queen of darkness" title.[4]. Richard Ramirez's bizarre childhood YouTube I think hes a really great person. One time, Harder said Ramirez lied to him about the name of his dog claiming it was called King, when it was actually called Princess. Ramirez famously held his hand up during the trial to reveal a pentagram on his hand - and shocking the courtroom. Eva O Talks.Ramirez, Iceman . TwitterDoreen Lioy became Richard Ramirezs wife in San Quentin State Prison in 1996. I just believe in him completely. I'm surprised your mon was okay with allowing her 13 year old to correspond with a serial killer lol. Please contact the moderators of this subreddit if you have any questions or concerns. From a former correctional officer, it concerns me that people want to form any sort of relationship with monsters. She started a local, all-girl punk band in Long Beach known as the Speed Queens, and played with them from 1980 to 1982. "He has this chronic masturbation problem and was always masturbating when female officers would walk by. 21 serial killer quotes that will chill you to the bone, Brazils real-life Dexter, Pedro Rodrigues Filho. ", News Group Newspapers Limited in England No. It's mine and I want to keep it. Ive never made any secret to him that I wanted five or six children. View our online Press Pack. William Harder, who visited Ramirez twice in prison, says he even masturbated in front of him during a visit and it became such a problem he was kept in solitary confinement for most of his prison life. His older cousin Miguel a Vietnam veteran told him sickening stories of torturing Vietnamese women during the war. Love it or hate it, and ask any questions you like. I was so excited I knew without any thought that I wanted to do "O HOLY NIGHT". Thats how we communicated before meeting for the first time.of course, newspapers and TV news said he smiled and waved to the camera because he was not remorseful. Richard Ramirez had an extremely traumatic start to life. What is the moral repercussions if I do? By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. 1 / 5. It is mandatory to procure user consent prior to running these cookies on your website. "Because of that they put him in the most controlled environment in San Quentin which is called the adjustment center he had no visits, no telephone access, no privileges. With vending machines lining the walls and plastic chairs bolted to the ground, a seemingly traditional wedding was underway. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. " What attracted me to Richard was that I felt that his soul was very close to mine. Relatives disowned her, and journalists couldnt understand why she had upended her life to be with Ramirez. I am a bit disappointed that this has turned into such a circle jerk in some parts of the thread. I just felt terrified and uncomfortable the whole time. Fortunately, the LAPDs new fingerprint database and a bit of luck saw the Night Stalker captured. Christian Death reunited and released two more albums, but the lineup that the band used on those albums was essentially just everyone from Shadow Project. Cookie Notice Our community offers an alternative to subs that don't allow videos or podcast links as post submissions to kick off discussion. Etc etc. -last edit- Still some questions coming in and I will answer all of them. I had read a peole magazine article about him, and I had concluded that he could understand me very well. I introduced the glorification rule to weed out people that follow this topic for the wrong reasons. Richard Ramirez, in full Ricardo Leyva Muoz Ramirez, byname Night Stalker, (born February 29, 1960, El Paso, Texas, U.S.died June 7, 2013, Greenbrae, California), American serial killer, rapist, and burglar who murdered at least 13 people in California in 1984-85. On November 7, 1989, Ramirez was sentenced to death. These women have no empathy for his victims, and probably not any for other people either. On August 31, 1985, Ramirez was arrested after multiple witnesses recognized him on the street and beat him relentlessly until police arrived. After all, the 1996 ceremony took place in San Quentin State Prison and her new husband was the notorious serial killer Richard Ramirez. "I knew other people who visited him once walked in and the first thing he said was take off your shoes and put them up on the glass and he would jerk off right there, she told me the guy next to him actually handed him some toilet paper to clean up - it was just a thing - they knew that's what he was going to do. Out of these cookies, the cookies that are categorized as necessary are stored on your browser as they are essential for the working of basic functionalities of the website. So what! [1] Among the performers on it are Josh Pyle (keyboards/programming), River Tunnell (bass), and Kristian Rosentrater (drums), all members of the industrial band Audio Paradox. Image posts must be accompanied by a comment explaining where you found it or why you find it interesting. If you want to write them that's fine, but do it on your own time. After 11 years of writing love letters to her prospective husband, Doreen Lioy finally got to marry the man of her dreams. By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. Sean Penn was eager to complete his 60-day sentence without incident in 1987 when a guard approached him with a message from Richard Ramirez . When directly asked, Lioy would just say, Hometown girl makes bad., [People call me crazy] or stupid or lying, she complained. Dubbed the Night Stalker by the media, Ramirez had already been sentenced to death for killing over a dozen people in the mid-1980s. As for movies I like thrillers and comedies. Such women are ultimately as insecure, narcissistic, pathetic and low in empathy as the serial killers they worship. Yet he himself was a part owner of the now defunct Washington DC crime museum (items now at the Pigeon Forge one) where people paid to get in. Meet Doreen Lioy, The Woman Who Married A Satanic Serial Killer On Death Row. Harder shared several letters and pictures from Ramirez - but pointed out he never pays prisoners for items - or sells letters or artwork sent to him personally. That night, I waited patiently in front of my television, and he did what I asked him! By clicking Accept, you consent to the use of ALL the cookies. From January 24th, 2021, the short film will be available online for the general public to see for only 17 days. Meanwhile, Lioy has been absent from the public eye for several years. By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. He called me in the morning and sang me refrains to wake me up. By August 1985, the press had made it clear that nobody was safe. But I did not have his address, so the letters piled up in a corner. Richard Ramirez is under renewed scrutiny thanks to Netflix documentary series: Night Stalker. This song is for the heart to feel. Before coming to see him, I asked him for a favor, since I saw him every night on TV. John Walsh went after my buddy at one point (and others like him), saying they profited from crime. I can answer a few questions about my experience with writing him as well. On their wedding day, Lioy bought a gold band for herself and a platinum one for Richard Ramirez since he had already explained to her that Satanists dont wear gold. A conversation with Richard Ramirez behind bars. "At the time it didn't really register with us because his mannerisms were so awkward anyway.". I myself just cannot follow that way. In one letter to a crazed female fan, he brags how he gets 50 letters a week, creepily asks at what age her breasts developed and claims he lost his virginity aged nine. I have taken it upon myself to learn from this man, about his life, about his past, because I wanted to know how he went from being a normal little boy to a serial killer. Watch popular content from the following creators: <R3(@haii.satan6), (@ahs198.4), (@nightstalker_ramirezz), (@ramirezhours), Tis i(@deathrowrory), Jacktheknife(@jacktheknife_02291960), Jacktheknife(@jacktheknife_02291960), . Her neck was cut so deep, she was almost decapitated. Eva was born on January 11, 1961, in Las Vegas, Nevada, and moved to Los Angeles, California, in 1979 in hopes to start a rock band and be a rock star. Richard Ramirez was still a predator from behind bars and in this episode we look at some creepy prison letters from the case of The Night Stalker Richard Ra. She was even the first woman he ever proposed to. I could remove this because 'friends' feels inappropriate, but then at the same time I feel like i'm depriving people of handwritten documents that might give insight to a person's inner monologue. "He would masturbate during visits, it was out of control he couldn't stop so the prison locked him in basically the hole - administrative segregation - it's like a dungeon. Deathrock legend Eva O. is one of them. Richard Ramirez killed at least 14 people, he raped and tortured at least two dozen more. Though she was widely reviled by the public, Lioy was determined to get hitched to Ramirez. The serial killer was found guilty of 13 murders, five attempted murders, 11 sexual assaults and 14 burglaries. Creepy but interesting. "He loved his image as the Night Stalker no question about it he had a hefty amount of female admirers and he knew he had notoriety behind his name and he liked that. There have a few reports so far that this glorifies killer. I still could not believe it was Richard writing to me. Just pen pals really, eventually I just stopped writing him cause it got boring. The pastor said, That would be bad form to say here, on death row.. She was even the first woman he ever proposed to. i.e: People who look up to murderers, admire them, think they're cool and want to be like them. Information and news about serial killers. In the May I went with my wife and a girlfriend of ours and Ramirez asked me to stand against the wall, probably so he could get a better look at the girls, and I saw him pull the tissue out of his pants pocket. Actor John Stamos actually credited her with helping him become a celebrity. He writes: "Thank you for your compliments how old is your sister? "He just always masturbated. Balls look too heavy. Sales of guns, burglar alarms, and attack dogs surged as a result. Richard Ramirez and I have been writing to each other for a little over a year now. Although Lioy was overjoyed, the news of her wedding shocked the world. And so on October 3, 1996, prison staff secured a visiting room for the couple and allowed them to get married much to the disdain of the families of Ramirezs victims. Do you have a shower massager? And to send pictures of yourself, to have it sent to your home address be careful, peeps. Eventually, Eva got back together with Rozz and moved to San Francisco with him. What attracted me to Richard was that I felt that his soul was very close to mine. Although Ramirezs obituary didnt include any mention of a divorce, Lioy and Ramirez reportedly did not see each other for a few years before he died. She corresponded with him after his incarceration for a brief time, but did not meet him before his notorious killings made him famous. 14 years after Eva's conversion to Christianity in 1993, rumors had it that Eva began drifting away from her faith. Through their perspective we revisit exchanged letters and emotions that are as obsessive as they are hauntingly familiar. "He would sometimes get his privilege level back up to where he could have visits but they were always behind the glass.". While Richard Ramirezs wife was enamored with her husband, her friends and family were in shock. You can't whitewash it, Ramirez was not a nice person. On September 20th, 1989, the jury found Ramirez guilty on 13 counts of murder, 5 counts of attempted murder, 11 counts of sexual assault, and 14 burglary charges. I could see being attracted to someone who would make you safer, but not this. Andrew H. Walker, Michael Ochs Archives/Getty Images. 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ALL RIGHTS RESERVED | TERMS OF USE | PRIVACY | YOUR AD CHOICES | SITEMAP, Ramirez murdered 13 people in California in the mid-80s, He painted this chilling picture while incarcerated at San Quentin State prison in North California, Remorseless Ramirez showed off this pentagram to shocked onlookers in court, Ramirez in San Quentin prison during a visit, He would send the bizarre art work to his twisted followers, In this letter he asks a series of mundane questions, He appears very interested in the recipient's sister, He soon becomes sexual - asking the recipient when her breasts developed, Ramirez was given 19 death sentences, but died from cancer before his execution, The killer with his wife Doreen in prison, In this 2001 letter, Ramirez mentions fellow serial killer Ted Bundy, Ramirez would sign the front of this letters like this, Harder began writing to Ramirez in late 2000, Harder's visitor pass for his 2005 visit with Ramirez, Night Stalker survivor reveals how Richard Ramirez sexually assaulted her when she was 6, sentenced to death for 13 murders, five attempted and 11 sexual assaults, viewers shocked at the depravity of his crimes, crime memorabilia site called Murder Auction, described the murderer as an awkward character, people of all ages including children and elderly people. Calling it a night, folks. They dont know him the way I do.. By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. The Night Stalker killed at least 14 people in the mid-1980s. He was a 25-year-old drifter from El Paso, Texas, named Richard Ramirez. For a long time, I was his only visitor. We are very gateful to see the film enjoy a very rewarding response and so far won the Golden Dragen at Krakow Film Festival and the Grand Prix an Animafest Zagreb. Her zodiac sign is Capricorn American Criminal Richard Ramirez was born Ricardo Leyva Muoz Ramrez on 29th February, 1960 in El Paso, Texas, USA and passed away on 7th Jun 2013 Greenbrae, California, USA aged 53. The twisted serial killer is currently the focus of a new Netflix documentary, which has left many viewers shocked at the depravity of his crimes against men, women and children. Sarah and Richard had more of a fantasy kind of relationship and Shoko was just curious and wanted to write him. Sarah and Richard had more of a "fantasy" kind of . In one letter to a crazed female fan, he brags how he gets 50 letters a week, creepily asks at what age her breasts developed and claims he lost his virginity aged nine. I really think hes cute and Im gonna write to him. I mean, I would think thats kind of strange.. For other inquiries, Contact Us. I choose to be honest. Harder shared several letters and pictures from Ramirez - but pointed out he never pays prisoners for items - or sells letters or artwork sent to him personally. The number of women that were in love this guy AFTER he was caught is astounding. Ultimately, their relationship most likely did not end well. It didnt really creep me out much, I wouldnt have visited him or anything but all it from a FAR distance was cool. In love, for love, real love, to the human world that needs to heal. Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. Harder said he is pleased that the Netflix documentary focused on the child murders and abuse committed by Ramirez because the killer was never tried for these crimes. Doreen Lioy became Richard Ramirezs wife in San Quentin State Prison in 1996. You can't whitewash it, Ramirez was not a nice person. Its unclear what drove the couple apart, but some believe the 2009 evidence that he murdered a 9-year-old in 1984 was too much for Lioy. She spent a lot of time with Richard Ramirez, with whom she claims she was in a relationship. "I just thought it was funny he wanted to look like this tough guy, this monster and Princess just didn't fit with that," Harder said. Lioy wrote 75 letters to Ramirez during his imprisonment. By 2014, Eve O. had returned to her faith: I was approached by Sam Rosenthal to pick a song and record at his studio a Christ mass song. Doreen Lioy was born in Burbank, California in 1955. He fulfilled my wishes by letting me see the police photos of his file, and as to the stories to accompany them, well, The Night Stalker was there in person to answer all my questions. I love children, she said. She said, Itd be hard for me to understand if my best friend came to me and said, You know, this guy Timothy McVeigh, who just got convicted? I was so happy. The short film called "Just a Guy" is about the women that had relationships with Richard Ramirez. Eva claimed that she and the serial killer exchanged poems, initially for a . 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